Is The Death Penalty A “Small-Minded” Rule of the Catholic Church?

From the Department of Small-Minded Rules.

We are Traditional Catholics.  We adhere to the old teaching that the death penalty is Just Punishment.

Pope Francis once said that, “The church sometimes has locked itself up in small things, in small-minded rules.”  Quoted in  America Magazine  a Jesuit radical left rag disguised as Catholic.  Not recommended reading.–Ed.

 

The following was originally posted 10/27/2014.  We re-post this today as the pope has made news once again in regards to abolishing the death penalty and has proclaimed he can change the Church’s Magisterium.   The Remnant Newspaper  (August 2, 2018) has an excellent analysis by Christopher Ferrara of the invalidity of the pope’s claims.


Fidelity and Action blog, October 27, 2014 — In the following article, Pope Francis states he is against the death penalty.  He also says he is against life sentences.  Our snarky comments are in red.

Catholic News Service.  By Francis X. Rocca.  10/12/2014.

“Pope Francis calls for abolishing the Death Penalty and Life Imprisonment”

FULL TEXT

VATICAN CITY (CNS) – Pope Francis called for abolition of the death penalty as well as life imprisonment, and denounced what he called a “penal populism” that promises to solve society’s problems by punishing crime instead of pursuing social justice.

“It is impossible to imagine that states today cannot make use of another means than capital punishment to defend peoples’ lives from an unjust aggressor,” the pope said Oct. 23 in a meeting with representatives of the International Association of Penal Law.

“All Christians and people of good will are thus called today to struggle not only for abolition of the death penalty, whether it be legal or illegal and in all its forms, but also to improve prison conditions, out of respect for the human dignity of persons deprived of their liberty.  And this, I connect with life imprisonment,” he said.  “Life imprisonment is a hidden death penalty.”

Our response:  Special Note for Americans:  Disregard the Pope’s message re “improve prison conditions”; our prisons pamper inmates enough!  Heck, they can even obtain sex reassignment surgery!  Death Row inmates like cop killer Mumia Abu Jumal have fan clubs, a radio program, and write books.  See widow Maureen Faulkner’s website dedicated to the truth about the death sentence cop killer Mumia imposed on her  husband, Officer Daniel Faulkner – archived website.

 

The pope noted that the Vatican recently eliminated life imprisonment from its own penal code.

Our response:  The population of Vatican City is only 839 people.

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, cited by Pope Francis in his talk, “the traditional teaching of the church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending lives against the unjust aggressor,” but modern advances in protecting society from dangerous criminals mean that “cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity are very rare, if not practically nonexistent.”

Our response:   Killers released from prison kill again and A list of murderers released to murder again!

The pope said that, although a number of countries have formally abolished capital punishment, “the death penalty, illegally and to a varying extent, is applied all over the planet” because “extrajudicial executions” are often disguised as “clashes with offenders or presented as the undesired consequences of the reasonable, necessary and proportionate use of force to apply the law.”

Our response:  The pope and the United Nations desire the U.S. to defer to other countries.  It’s the New World Order trending.

The pope denounced the detention of prisoners without trial, who he said account for more than 50 percent of all incarcerated people in some countries.  He said maximum security prisons can be a form of torture, since their “principal characteristic is none other than external isolation,” which can lead to “psychic and physical suffering such as paranoia, anxiety, depression and weight loss and significantly increase the chance of suicide.”

He also rebuked unspecified government involved in kidnapping people for “illegal transportation to detention centers in which torture is practiced.”

Our response:  Being a victim of heinous violence is a form of torture.

The pope said criminal penalties should not apply to children, and should be waived or limited for the elderly, who “on the basis of their very errors can offer lessons to the rest of society.  We don’t learn only from the virtues of saints but also from the failings of errors of sinners.”

Our response:  Okay, then let’s free the elderly priests who raped children from prison!

The pope said some politicians and members of the media promote “violence and revenge, public and private, not only against those responsible for crimes, but also against those under suspicion, justified or not.”

Our response:  If the pope is so concerned about public violence against criminals, then he needs to be reminded of the essential requirement in a civil society:  PRISONS!  Baffles the mind!

He denounced a growing tendency to think that the “most varied social problems can be resolved through public punishment . . . that by means of that punishment we can obtain benefits that would require the implementation of another type of social policy, economic policy and policy of social inclusion.”

Our response:  The pope wants us to invited members of ISIS and the Black Panthers to tea.  See “Radical Chic” by Tom Wolfe.  Using techniques similar to those of racist regimes of the past, the pope said, unspecified forces today create “stereotypical figures that sum up the characteristics that society perceives as threatening.”

Our response:  Is the pope implying that jihadis are not threatening?

Pope Francis concluded his talk by denouncing human trafficking and corruption, both crimes he said “could never be committed without the complicity, active or passive, of public authorities.”

Our response:  The pope is, at last, correct on this point.  Think Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Planned Parenthood, et al.

The pope spoke scathingly about the mentality of the typical corrupt person, whom he described as conceited, unable to accept criticism, and prompt to insult and even persecute those who disagree with him.  “The corrupt one does not perceive his own corruption.  It is a little what happens with bad breath:  someone who has it hardly ever realizes it; other people notice and have to tell him,” the pope said.  “Corruption is an evil greater than sin.  More than forgiveness, this evil needs to be cured.”

Our response:  How do we cure corruption?  Let’s invent prisons!

End of article.


Related:

Pope Francis: ‘death penalty inadmissable.’  Vatican News.  About the pope’s proposed death penalty rewrite in the Catechism.

August 2, 2018.  American Magazine’s interview of Sr. Helen Prejean:

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Jesuit Father Joseph Fessio Criticizes The Pope: Breed Like Rabbits

Updated 9/29/2015

“Breed Like Rabbits” is an Anti-Catholic slur. First Things.


Your editor has been accused of being a Bad Catholic because I criticized Pope Francis for his crude remarks, which are undignified coming from the Vicar of Christ.  He first reaffirmed Catholic teaching against contraception, then he said:

But “this does not mean a Christian must make children one after another,” the pope said, citing the case of a woman who became pregnant an eighth time after giving birth to seven children via cesarean section.  “Does she want to leave seven orphans?” he said. “This is tempting God.  Some people think — excuse me for saying this — that to be good Catholics we have to be like rabbits,” Pope Francis said, yet church teaching provides for “many licit ways” to limit reproduction.

Jesuit Father Fessio was on Catholic Answers Live last week.  Father is the founder of Ignatius Press.  I’ve listened online and transcribed the parts where he very prudently criticizes Pope Francis…but I had to listen very carefully for it.

Fessio_Fr Joseph​Father Joseph Fessio, S.J.

FATHER FESSIO reflecting on the pope’s phrase that Catholics reproduce “like rabbits”:    When you are a person in authority, you always have to be concerned how what you say will be taken the right way, especially if there is something new. The media will report when there is something new in the Catholic Church. [paraphrased.]

Partial Transcription by Nina Rhea:

“What bothers me is the good people who are struggling against society which is anti-child, which is not to have a family.   You know what it’s like to walk into a store if you have 3 or 4 kids with you? I mean people stare at you, they mock you, they make jokes about you, they ask embarrassing questions…I mean, these people need our support.  

“I know a woman who had 10 cesareans! She got pregnant again. She had her 11th healthy child through cesarean. So was she “irresponsible?” Oh yeah? Tell that to the son, the 11th child!

“What about Saint Ignatius? He was the 13th of 13 children? And Saint Catherine of Sienna was a TWIN, [child numbers] 21 and 22, of the same mother! So we’re going to say they’re rabbits out there?

I’m getting worked up about this. What the pOPE intended to say – which he said it the day after – is just right.”

FULL AUDIO at Catholic Answers Live.

Pope Francis: “End Prison Life Sentences” and Death Penalty, too

From the department of Small-Minded Rules  . . . from a Pope more Liberal Than Thou!

  1. THE TAKE AWAY MESSAGE OF THE POPE:  We don’t need prisons!
  2. Traditional Catholic Church Teaching:  DEATH PENALTY IS A JUST PUNISHMENT.

Our Comments in RED.

Pope Francis calls for abolishing death penalty and life imprisonment
Vatican Radio.  By Francis X. Rocca – October 23, 2014

Updated link 08/03/2018:  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-capitalpunishment/pope-calls-for-worldwide-abolition-of-death-penalty-idUSKCN0VU0GH

FULL TEXT:

VATICAN CITY (CNS) — Pope Francis called for abolition of the death penalty as well as life imprisonment, and denounced what he called a “penal populism” that promises to solve society’s problems by punishing crime instead of pursuing social justice.  “It is impossible to imagine that states today cannot make use of another means than capital punishment to defend peoples’ lives from an unjust aggressor,” the pope said Oct. 23 in a meeting with representatives of the International Association of Penal Law.

Oct 22 2014St. Peter’s Square Oct. 22 2014

“All Christians and people of good will are thus called today to struggle not only for abolition of the death penalty, whether it be legal or illegal and in all its forms, but also to improve prison conditions, out of respect for the human dignity of persons deprived of their liberty.  And this, I connect with life imprisonment,” he said. “Life imprisonment is a hidden death penalty.”

Our response:  Special Note for Americans:  Disregard the Pope’s message re “improve prison conditions”; our prisons pamper inmates enough!  Heck, they can even obtain sex reassignment surgery!  Death Row inmates like Mumia Abu Jumal have fan clubs, a radio program, and write books.  See widow Maureen Faulkner’s website dedicated to the truth about the death sentence Mumia imposed on her  husband, Officer Daniel Faulkner.

The pope noted that the Vatican recently eliminated life imprisonment from its own penal code.

Our response:  The population of Vatican City is only 839.  Source.

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, cited by Pope Francis in his talk, “the traditional teaching of the church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor,” but modern advances in protecting society from dangerous criminals mean that “cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity are very rare, if not practically nonexistent.”

Our response:   Killers released from prison kill again and A list of murderers released to murder again!

The pope said that, although a number of countries have formally abolished capital punishment, “the death penalty, illegally and to a varying extent, is applied all over the planet,” because “extrajudicial executions” are often disguised as “clashes with offenders or presented as the undesired consequences of the reasonable, necessary and proportionate use of force to apply the law.”

The pope denounced the detention of prisoners without trial, who he said account for more than 50 percent of all incarcerated people in some countries. He said maximum security prisons can be a form of torture, since their “principal characteristic is none other than external isolation,” which can lead to “psychic and physical sufferings such as paranoia, anxiety, depression and weight loss and significantly increase the chance of suicide.”

Our response:  Being a victim of heinous violence can be a form of torture. 

He also rebuked unspecified governments involved in kidnapping people for “illegal transportation to detention centers in which torture is practiced.”

The pope said criminal penalties should not apply to children, and should be waived or limited for the elderly, who “on the basis of their very errors can offer lessons to the rest of society. We don’t learn only from the virtues of saints but also from the failings and errors of sinners.”

Our response:  Okay, let’s free elderly Catholic priests who raped children! 

The pope said some politicians and members of the media promote “violence and revenge, public and private, not only against those responsible for crimes, but also against those under suspicion, justified or not.”

He denounced a growing tendency to think that the “most varied social problems can be resolved through public punishment … that by means of that punishment we can obtain benefits that would require the implementation of another type of social policy, economic policy and policy of social inclusion.”

Our response:  That paragraph is a Brain Twister.

jihadistUsing techniques similar to those of racist regimes of the past, the pope said, unspecified forces today create stereotypical figures that sum up the characteristics that society perceives as threatening.”

 Our response:  Jihadi terrorist [Image added by Fidelity and Action.]

Pope Francis concluded his talk by denouncing human trafficking and corruption, both crimes he said “could never be committed without the complicity, active or passive, of public authorities.”

Our response:  Public Authority such as International Planned Parenthood Federation.

The pope spoke scathingly about the mentality of the typical corrupt person, whom he described as conceited, unable to accept criticism, and prompt to insult and even persecute those who disagree with him.   “The corrupt one does not perceive his own corruption. It is a little like what happens with bad breath: someone who has it hardly ever realizes it; other people notice and have to tell him,” the pope said. “Corruption is an evil greater than sin.  More than forgiveness, this evil needs to be cured.”

Our response:  Let me thinkHow to cure corruption?  Let’s invent prisons!

End of Article

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