Is The Death Penalty A “Small-Minded” Rule of the Catholic Church?

From the Department of Small-Minded Rules.

We are Traditional Catholics.  We adhere to the old teaching that the death penalty is Just Punishment.

Pope Francis once said that, “The church sometimes has locked itself up in small things, in small-minded rules.”  Quoted in  America Magazine  a Jesuit radical left rag disguised as Catholic.  Not recommended reading.–Ed.

 

The following was originally posted 10/27/2014.  We re-post this today as the pope has made news once again in regards to abolishing the death penalty and has proclaimed he can change the Church’s Magisterium.   The Remnant Newspaper  (August 2, 2018) has an excellent analysis by Christopher Ferrara of the invalidity of the pope’s claims.


Fidelity and Action blog, October 27, 2014 — In the following article, Pope Francis states he is against the death penalty.  He also says he is against life sentences.  Our snarky comments are in red.

Catholic News Service.  By Francis X. Rocca.  10/12/2014.

“Pope Francis calls for abolishing the Death Penalty and Life Imprisonment”

FULL TEXT

VATICAN CITY (CNS) – Pope Francis called for abolition of the death penalty as well as life imprisonment, and denounced what he called a “penal populism” that promises to solve society’s problems by punishing crime instead of pursuing social justice.

“It is impossible to imagine that states today cannot make use of another means than capital punishment to defend peoples’ lives from an unjust aggressor,” the pope said Oct. 23 in a meeting with representatives of the International Association of Penal Law.

“All Christians and people of good will are thus called today to struggle not only for abolition of the death penalty, whether it be legal or illegal and in all its forms, but also to improve prison conditions, out of respect for the human dignity of persons deprived of their liberty.  And this, I connect with life imprisonment,” he said.  “Life imprisonment is a hidden death penalty.”

Our response:  Special Note for Americans:  Disregard the Pope’s message re “improve prison conditions”; our prisons pamper inmates enough!  Heck, they can even obtain sex reassignment surgery!  Death Row inmates like cop killer Mumia Abu Jumal have fan clubs, a radio program, and write books.  See widow Maureen Faulkner’s website dedicated to the truth about the death sentence cop killer Mumia imposed on her  husband, Officer Daniel Faulkner – archived website.

 

The pope noted that the Vatican recently eliminated life imprisonment from its own penal code.

Our response:  The population of Vatican City is only 839 people.

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, cited by Pope Francis in his talk, “the traditional teaching of the church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending lives against the unjust aggressor,” but modern advances in protecting society from dangerous criminals mean that “cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity are very rare, if not practically nonexistent.”

Our response:   Killers released from prison kill again and A list of murderers released to murder again!

The pope said that, although a number of countries have formally abolished capital punishment, “the death penalty, illegally and to a varying extent, is applied all over the planet” because “extrajudicial executions” are often disguised as “clashes with offenders or presented as the undesired consequences of the reasonable, necessary and proportionate use of force to apply the law.”

Our response:  The pope and the United Nations desire the U.S. to defer to other countries.  It’s the New World Order trending.

The pope denounced the detention of prisoners without trial, who he said account for more than 50 percent of all incarcerated people in some countries.  He said maximum security prisons can be a form of torture, since their “principal characteristic is none other than external isolation,” which can lead to “psychic and physical suffering such as paranoia, anxiety, depression and weight loss and significantly increase the chance of suicide.”

He also rebuked unspecified government involved in kidnapping people for “illegal transportation to detention centers in which torture is practiced.”

Our response:  Being a victim of heinous violence is a form of torture.

The pope said criminal penalties should not apply to children, and should be waived or limited for the elderly, who “on the basis of their very errors can offer lessons to the rest of society.  We don’t learn only from the virtues of saints but also from the failings of errors of sinners.”

Our response:  Okay, then let’s free the elderly priests who raped children from prison!

The pope said some politicians and members of the media promote “violence and revenge, public and private, not only against those responsible for crimes, but also against those under suspicion, justified or not.”

Our response:  If the pope is so concerned about public violence against criminals, then he needs to be reminded of the essential requirement in a civil society:  PRISONS!  Baffles the mind!

He denounced a growing tendency to think that the “most varied social problems can be resolved through public punishment . . . that by means of that punishment we can obtain benefits that would require the implementation of another type of social policy, economic policy and policy of social inclusion.”

Our response:  The pope wants us to invited members of ISIS and the Black Panthers to tea.  See “Radical Chic” by Tom Wolfe.  Using techniques similar to those of racist regimes of the past, the pope said, unspecified forces today create “stereotypical figures that sum up the characteristics that society perceives as threatening.”

Our response:  Is the pope implying that jihadis are not threatening?

Pope Francis concluded his talk by denouncing human trafficking and corruption, both crimes he said “could never be committed without the complicity, active or passive, of public authorities.”

Our response:  The pope is, at last, correct on this point.  Think Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Planned Parenthood, et al.

The pope spoke scathingly about the mentality of the typical corrupt person, whom he described as conceited, unable to accept criticism, and prompt to insult and even persecute those who disagree with him.  “The corrupt one does not perceive his own corruption.  It is a little what happens with bad breath:  someone who has it hardly ever realizes it; other people notice and have to tell him,” the pope said.  “Corruption is an evil greater than sin.  More than forgiveness, this evil needs to be cured.”

Our response:  How do we cure corruption?  Let’s invent prisons!

End of article.


Related:

Pope Francis: ‘death penalty inadmissable.’  Vatican News.  About the pope’s proposed death penalty rewrite in the Catechism.

August 2, 2018.  American Magazine’s interview of Sr. Helen Prejean:

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Sister Helen Prejean to the Rescue for Muslim Terrorist!

Celebrity Nun Called As Witness for the Defense of Boston Muslim Terrorist Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.  Helen Prejean:  the only Catholic nun the NYT finds credible.

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Boston Marathon Terrorist Tsarnaev is convicted of killing 3 people and wounding 264 others.

We at Fidelity and Action do enjoy seeing Sister Helen once again in the national spotlight.  Notice how the terrorist is no longer portrayed as a terrorist in the media, below.  No, he’s either a former college student or the Boston bomber.

Sr. Helen Prejean leaving courtroom after testifying for Boston Bomber
Sr. Helen Prejean leaving courtroom after testifying for Boston Bomber. Photo: NYT

MEDIA COVERAGE RECAP

WBUR May 4, 2015

1.  “Tsarnaev’s own lawyer flatly told a jury that the 21-year-old former college student committed the crime.”

NY Daily News:  May 7, 2015

1.  “Boston Bomber’s Lawyers Want Nun To Come To His Rescue.”

2.  “Defense attorneys want the jury weighing whether Tsarnaev should be executed — or spend the rest of his life in prison — to hear from the 76-year-old Louisiana nun.”

Daily Mail UK:  May 7, 2015

1.  “He was found guilty of all 30 charges, many of which carried the death penalty.”

2.  “Defense attorney Judy Clarke, who has a track record of successfully defending killers against the death penalty, announced Sister Helen as one of two ‘potential’ witnesses on Wednesday while the jury was not in the courtroom.”
3.  “The movie Dead Man Walking brought Sister Helen to national prominence. It charts her support for Elmo Patrick Sonnier, a convicted rapist and murderer who attempted to overturn the death penalty. ”

New York Times:  May 11, 2015

1.  “The nun provided to jurors the first evidence of Mr. Tsarnaev feeling regret since he was captured and charged with killing three people and wounding 264 others at the 2013 marathon, as well as killing an M.I.T. police officer three days later.

2.  Wearing street clothes, a silver cross dangling from her neck, Sister Helen Prejean, a Roman Catholic nun and prominent opponent of the death penalty, testified on Monday that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the convicted Boston Marathon bomber, had expressed sympathy for his victims.

3.  Asked how his voice sounded as he spoke, Sister Prejean, 76, said: “It had pain in it, actually, when he said what he did about ‘nobody deserves that.’ I had every reason to think he was taking it in and he was genuinely sorry for what he did.”

4. “Their cross-examination was to point out what was obvious: She’s against the death penalty, and she’d be up there arguing against it even if it were Adolf Hitler,” said David Hoose, a defense lawyer in Northampton, Mass., who has argued death penalty cases.  Still, Mr. Hoose said, Sister Prejean was a valuable witness because she carries moral authority and because if Mr. Tsarnaev felt any regret, she could convey sincerity about it better than he could.

National Public Radio, May 11, 2015 “Sister Helen Prejean Says Dzohkar Tsarnaev ‘Genuinely Sorry'” :

1.  “Her testimony was very significant. Remember, Tsarnaev has been sitting basically stone-faced through just about this entire trial, leaving jurors with absolutely no clue what’s going on in his head. So this witness was the first to shed a little light.”

2.  “She says she met with Tsarnaev five times and that when they spoke about his crimes and his victims, he said, quote, “no one deserves to suffer like they did.” Sister Helen says that Tsarnaev lowered eyes, his voice sounded pained. She says she could see the emotion in his face, and she says she came away believing that he’s, quote, “genuinely sorry for what he did.” I should say that her testimony was clearly limited legally. There was a lot she couldn’t say, but she did manage to signal to jurors that there might be – might be – some remorse.

Daily Mail UK May 13, 2015 – “Lawyer to give Jury Closing Arguments”

Related

Our Sister Helen Prejean Dossier.

Our annual tradition at Fidelity and Action: to provide readers with a counter balance to Sister Helen Prejean.   DEAD FAMILY WALKING:  the true story of a book, a movie and a nun.”   deadfamilywalkingbook

Pope Francis: “End Prison Life Sentences” and Death Penalty, too

From the department of Small-Minded Rules  . . . from a Pope more Liberal Than Thou!

  1. THE TAKE AWAY MESSAGE OF THE POPE:  We don’t need prisons!
  2. Traditional Catholic Church Teaching:  DEATH PENALTY IS A JUST PUNISHMENT.

Our Comments in RED.

Pope Francis calls for abolishing death penalty and life imprisonment
Vatican Radio.  By Francis X. Rocca – October 23, 2014

Updated link 08/03/2018:  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-capitalpunishment/pope-calls-for-worldwide-abolition-of-death-penalty-idUSKCN0VU0GH

FULL TEXT:

VATICAN CITY (CNS) — Pope Francis called for abolition of the death penalty as well as life imprisonment, and denounced what he called a “penal populism” that promises to solve society’s problems by punishing crime instead of pursuing social justice.  “It is impossible to imagine that states today cannot make use of another means than capital punishment to defend peoples’ lives from an unjust aggressor,” the pope said Oct. 23 in a meeting with representatives of the International Association of Penal Law.

Oct 22 2014St. Peter’s Square Oct. 22 2014

“All Christians and people of good will are thus called today to struggle not only for abolition of the death penalty, whether it be legal or illegal and in all its forms, but also to improve prison conditions, out of respect for the human dignity of persons deprived of their liberty.  And this, I connect with life imprisonment,” he said. “Life imprisonment is a hidden death penalty.”

Our response:  Special Note for Americans:  Disregard the Pope’s message re “improve prison conditions”; our prisons pamper inmates enough!  Heck, they can even obtain sex reassignment surgery!  Death Row inmates like Mumia Abu Jumal have fan clubs, a radio program, and write books.  See widow Maureen Faulkner’s website dedicated to the truth about the death sentence Mumia imposed on her  husband, Officer Daniel Faulkner.

The pope noted that the Vatican recently eliminated life imprisonment from its own penal code.

Our response:  The population of Vatican City is only 839.  Source.

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, cited by Pope Francis in his talk, “the traditional teaching of the church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor,” but modern advances in protecting society from dangerous criminals mean that “cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity are very rare, if not practically nonexistent.”

Our response:   Killers released from prison kill again and A list of murderers released to murder again!

The pope said that, although a number of countries have formally abolished capital punishment, “the death penalty, illegally and to a varying extent, is applied all over the planet,” because “extrajudicial executions” are often disguised as “clashes with offenders or presented as the undesired consequences of the reasonable, necessary and proportionate use of force to apply the law.”

The pope denounced the detention of prisoners without trial, who he said account for more than 50 percent of all incarcerated people in some countries. He said maximum security prisons can be a form of torture, since their “principal characteristic is none other than external isolation,” which can lead to “psychic and physical sufferings such as paranoia, anxiety, depression and weight loss and significantly increase the chance of suicide.”

Our response:  Being a victim of heinous violence can be a form of torture. 

He also rebuked unspecified governments involved in kidnapping people for “illegal transportation to detention centers in which torture is practiced.”

The pope said criminal penalties should not apply to children, and should be waived or limited for the elderly, who “on the basis of their very errors can offer lessons to the rest of society. We don’t learn only from the virtues of saints but also from the failings and errors of sinners.”

Our response:  Okay, let’s free elderly Catholic priests who raped children! 

The pope said some politicians and members of the media promote “violence and revenge, public and private, not only against those responsible for crimes, but also against those under suspicion, justified or not.”

He denounced a growing tendency to think that the “most varied social problems can be resolved through public punishment … that by means of that punishment we can obtain benefits that would require the implementation of another type of social policy, economic policy and policy of social inclusion.”

Our response:  That paragraph is a Brain Twister.

jihadistUsing techniques similar to those of racist regimes of the past, the pope said, unspecified forces today create stereotypical figures that sum up the characteristics that society perceives as threatening.”

 Our response:  Jihadi terrorist [Image added by Fidelity and Action.]

Pope Francis concluded his talk by denouncing human trafficking and corruption, both crimes he said “could never be committed without the complicity, active or passive, of public authorities.”

Our response:  Public Authority such as International Planned Parenthood Federation.

The pope spoke scathingly about the mentality of the typical corrupt person, whom he described as conceited, unable to accept criticism, and prompt to insult and even persecute those who disagree with him.   “The corrupt one does not perceive his own corruption. It is a little like what happens with bad breath: someone who has it hardly ever realizes it; other people notice and have to tell him,” the pope said. “Corruption is an evil greater than sin.  More than forgiveness, this evil needs to be cured.”

Our response:  Let me thinkHow to cure corruption?  Let’s invent prisons!

End of Article

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